prejudiced History and Fairly History
Dear Amigos (Mohammadreza and Gilemard), HOLA, I should appreciate your English, linguistic and history knowledge. In most of your comments I am agree with you in comments such:” The pre-Aryan people of Iran (like Cassites or elamites) are indeed not studied racially” but you wrote: I mixed linguistic with racology badly. You are wrong cos I had written that” unfortunately racological classifications are replaced by linguistic classifications are infected by politic in Middle East and caucus areas. As Gile mard said in his last comment, history is prejudiced strongly. Nima youshij (FATHER OF MODERN PERSIAN POETRY) has claimed Ferdowsi (One of the most famous Persian poet) in his Tabari poems because he believed that Ferdowsi is exaggerated and had not a fairly opinion about his ancestors at the case Gilemard mentioned: “lie-worshipers and devil-worshipers”! Such this words about earlier northern Iranians in Avesta are Shahnameh still exists in the areas like Middle East. Concerning to terrible jokes and insults to later local people of north of Iran, at the case most of performances, glory and attributes are belong to them, are unfairly and boring. 2- There is no doubt about later migration of yellow races toward western parts of Asia. But Dear Mohammadreza you didn’t illustrate: Which kind of racial group were living in the area before Aryans and subsequent Turks? Did they were belong to a subdivided group of Turks or Aryans or Arabs etc? There is obvious reasons that show most of languages in the area between India and Europe have the same basic grammar and structure. For example: Is (english), ist (Germal), ast, hast (Farsi), he (Hindi), his6, is6, isn6 (Gilaki). Dokhtar (Farsi), daughter (English), d6tar (Gilaki), dotir (Norwagian and Icelandic). BUT in Gilaki also terms: Lakoo and Kor are using for Daughter in east and west Gilan respectively. What is the difference and Origin of these terms? We should open our eyes carefully. You wrote: “So, Iranians moved to Iran and mixed with the original inhabitants” You mean strange and you should change the first “Iranians” with something else like: Ukrainians, slaves, sakas etc. I agree with “Northern Indians (who are also Aryan) do not show European features”. These theories come from the first English men who came to India and found semi relativity of some natives with Europeans. Dear Mohammadreza I’m not that kind of people who denied last founded historical theories completely as Mr. Naser Pourpirar. I believe that there are also political reasons for this kind of deny to destruct ancient Iranian civilization BUT I believe that this destruction has happened in the past also for some nations like Northern Iranians by historical records such Avesta and so on that we should review them. Also I am agree with “Turkic languages entered the area between 4th and 10th centuries AD. So, it seems that Indo-European languages are "older", what ever that means.” But I refer you to my ex posts that I asked about a possible sequence in this events. You claims Turks about existence of an earlier language in Azerbayjan, Causcas and Anatoly area before their incoming but you didn’t reply about what’s happened after incoming of the race that you named Aryan that I believe there is also political effects in this term as well? I remember once upon a time I asked one of my colleagues, high educated young man about his family name that was SIBONI (SIBON is a village around Rodbar in Northern Iran) and he replied: “It means under shadow because Si comes from Sayeh (Shadow) and Bone mean : Under”. He actually explained yourself and his culture with present language and culture but now people who know Gilaki know that “SI” in old Gilaki means Mountaion and stone. There are a lot of locations just in highlands with this term like SI’POORD (SI+POORD= stone bridge. Thus for realizing and figuring out what is happened in the past, we should know customs, histories, linguistic, Geology, Geography, behaviors, Archeology and sociology of the case study. You wrote:” You should know the methodology of the discipline you are talking about, and you should know something about the theories and literature.” Which methodology do you believe? Methodology that has effected a lot of names in villages and cities? Ramsar instead of SAXT6SAR and Polroud instead of POOLOROOD , banaksar instead of BINIKSAR, roudsar instead of KOTAM or HOSAM,javaherdasht instead of JORDASHT and so on. If you ask a part of new generation about appellation of the second largest river of Gilan (polroud on the maps), they will explain:”POLROUD is a river with a bridge. Local people name this river POOLOROOD.We know in Eshkevari Gilaki, bridge is equal to POORD not POL(farsi word for bridge)and POOLO? I will say: I DON”T KNOW but I suppose, I think etc (This is the most scientific reply) because there are different ideas about POOLO otherwise it will be dogmatic. The same judgment will be fair for ARYA, ARYAN, IRANVIJAK, GIL,CASPIAN,TURK, etc. You wrote:” What I find disturbing in your two posts is that you really do not know history, linguistics, and archeology”But I say: I enjoyed your comments. GRACIAS ! ADIOS.